Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398B and the Cult of Pythagoras

Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398B and the Cult of Pythagoras In the present article I would like to focus on three things: the usefulness of Alcidamas’s fragment (cited in Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398b) for the procedure of establishing when the cult of poets/intellectuals began, the suitability of the terminolog...
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Autor*in:	Tomasz Mojsik [verfasserIn]

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Sprache:	Deutsch ; Englisch ; Französisch ; Italienisch ; Russisch

Erschienen:	2015

Schlagwörter:	pythagoreanism Pythagoras cult of intellectuals heroic cult cult of the Muses Alcidamas

Übergeordnetes Werk:	In: Classica Cracoviensia - Ksiegarnia Akademicka Publishing, 2021, 18(2015)
Übergeordnetes Werk:	volume:18 ; year:2015

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abstract	Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398B and the Cult of Pythagoras In the present article I would like to focus on three things: the usefulness of Alcidamas’s fragment (cited in Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398b) for the procedure of establishing when the cult of poets/intellectuals began, the suitability of the terminology in scholarly papers which refer to the problem, and the validity of the information about Pythagoras. In conclusion it is proposed that there are no existing testimonies supporting the (weak) hypothesis that the phrase καὶ Ἰταλιῶται Πυθαγόραν featuring in manuscripts of Rhetoric is authentic. Few late testimonies are either too vague or they indicate only Crotone and Metapontum, and not Greeks from the Italian peninsula in general. Such a perspective is not typical (to say the least) and at most reveals that the mention of respecting Pythagoras by those Greeks is not to be trusted fully. In the form as we know it, the phrase does not harmonize neither with the times of Alcidamas nor with the passage quoted by Aristotle.
abstractGer	Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398B and the Cult of Pythagoras In the present article I would like to focus on three things: the usefulness of Alcidamas’s fragment (cited in Arist. Rhet. 2.23.1398b) for the procedure of establishing when the cult of poets/intellectuals began, the suitability of the terminology in scholarly papers which refer to the problem, and the validity of the information about Pythagoras. In conclusion it is proposed that there are no existing testimonies supporting the (weak) hypothesis that the phrase καὶ Ἰταλιῶται Πυθαγόραν featuring in manuscripts of Rhetoric is authentic. Few late testimonies are either too vague or they indicate only Crotone and Metapontum, and not Greeks from the Italian peninsula in general. Such a perspective is not typical (to say the least) and at most reveals that the mention of respecting Pythagoras by those Greeks is not to be trusted fully. In the form as we know it, the phrase does not harmonize neither with the times of Alcidamas nor with the passage quoted by Aristotle.
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